Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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Forgiving. Surely a limit even for Christians?

by punkofnice in

ok. so i admit i'm stumped.

i left the jws and became christian and have been going through bouts of atheism, agnostisism and back.

that isn't something i want to delve into right now.. i remember seeing on the tv how a couple had their daughter murdered and they said that as christians they forgave the killer.. eh?.

THE GLADIATOR

It could be that although Christians believe they are for giving others, they are just biding their time. They wait on their god to do the judging and punishing. This act of faith is worth extra brownie points.

Those of us that believe we are responsible for the way the world of humans is run, have a more hands on approach. ‘Wait on the Lord’ has a hollow ring to it.

I do realize that Christians will see my pragmatic approach as an indication that I am dense, earthly and lacking in spiritual qualities. This is a cross I must bear - my gods demand it.

Hail Caesar!

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Your thoughts on whether atheists and agnostics are one step closer to God than religionists?

by Fernando in

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topgodapexspiritual persons (eg paul)middleatheists, agnostics, secularistsbottomreligionists (eg saul)seemingly in scripture the only persons jesus repeatedly tore into were the religionists (pharisees and sanhedrin or governing body).

it seems he gave the romans (secularists) scant attention, and chose to eat with the likes of prostitutes and presumably also lgbt persons..

THE GLADIATOR

Greeks and Romans had over 300 gods. Christians only belive in one god more than atheists.

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I can't believe this

by truthseeker1969 in

jw
friends

you all know i was in the uk settling estate issues and that the elders 'wanted to chat with me".. well i left before they could have the meeting i arranged on my "free day".. they turned up at my mothers home and were livid that i had gone, but here is the kicker.. brother heavenly described me as a potential apostate for what i had done, which sent my brother over the edge and he demanded a retraction and apology which they quickly gave him.

he intends to speak with the co when he comes on the matter.. it gets better, elder ballbag actually said "apostates do more good for the congregation than they think.

they pull those who should not be part of the org and clean the congregation" .

THE GLADIATOR

truthseeker1969

If you can’t believe this you don’t have a problem. The difficulty arises once we start believing.

Belief is a can of worms.

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Can you be in Love with two persons? My Dilemma...

by Intel in

first, don't laugh.

i'm not some adolescent teen that is confused about his relationship.

what i am going to relate here has become a maior hard ship and is really gnawing at me.

THE GLADIATOR

Re: Can you be in Love with two persons?

Love has no boundaries. If we are capable of love it is impossible to not be in love with any number of people.

However infatuation, lust and obsession are often mistaken for love.

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This Made Me So Thankful I am No Longer A Christian

by cofty in

i was following some links researching something to do with my condition when i came across this article by the well known christian author john piper called "don't waste your cancer".. if i had still been a christian when i got my diagnosis i would have been subjected to these sort of pious platitudes.

here are a few gems, read the full article if you wish but not on a full stomach.. .

cancer is not wasted when it is healed by god.

THE GLADIATOR

Christians choose to believe in a personal God. Many do not believe their God is responsible for our suffering. Some do and that is the point of contention. Logically, either the Christian God exists and is to blame; exists and is not to blame; or does not exist.

Those of us who do not believe such a God exists, have no need to become alarmed or angry if there are Christians who want to place the blame for suffering on their God. It is in a way an own goal.

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Ecclesiastes 7:12 Money! $$$

by N.drew in

nwt (new world translation of the holy scriptures) 1984. for wisdom is for a protection [the same as] money is for a protection; but the advantage of knowledge is that wisdom itself preserves alive its* owners.. does that make sense to anyone?

i understood what "wisdom preserves alive it's owner" means but never could find a place in logic for that other stuff.

because wisdom and the cost of wisdom is protected, knowledge excels, then wisdom makes alive it's owner.. .

THE GLADIATOR

You have to very careful where you put an apostrophe and how you punctuate!

A wrongly placed apostrophe can cause a great deal of upset and very unpleasant misunderstanding to innocent people who are simply seeking truth. Glad you raised this N'Dr.Ew.

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This Made Me So Thankful I am No Longer A Christian

by cofty in

i was following some links researching something to do with my condition when i came across this article by the well known christian author john piper called "don't waste your cancer".. if i had still been a christian when i got my diagnosis i would have been subjected to these sort of pious platitudes.

here are a few gems, read the full article if you wish but not on a full stomach.. .

cancer is not wasted when it is healed by god.

THE GLADIATOR

cofty It does seem that your experience of Christians had left you with a negative impresion; mine has been more positive.

As Terry would say, 'Your mileage may vary.'

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This Made Me So Thankful I am No Longer A Christian

by cofty in

i was following some links researching something to do with my condition when i came across this article by the well known christian author john piper called "don't waste your cancer".. if i had still been a christian when i got my diagnosis i would have been subjected to these sort of pious platitudes.

here are a few gems, read the full article if you wish but not on a full stomach.. .

cancer is not wasted when it is healed by god.

THE GLADIATOR

Not many Christians hold such an extreme view. They accept that phycical life in a body with feeling can bring both pleasure and pain.

I thought that BTS explained his position well om page one. I was touched by his comments.

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How can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?

by nicolaou in

just about the funniest thing i've read in ages!

*** w61 12/15 pp.

767-768 questions from readers ***.

THE GLADIATOR

As Time Goes By

You must remember this
A kiss is still a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by
And when two lovers woo
They still say, "I love you"
On that you can rely
No matter what the future brings
As time goes by
Moonlight and love songs
Never out of date
Hearts full of passion
Jealousy and hate
Woman needs man
And man must have his mate
That no one can deny
it's still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by

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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?

by cantleave in

many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.

i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.

my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.

THE GLADIATOR

Some Bible writers claimed that they were inspired or spoke from God as they were born along by holy spirit. Alas, self praise is no man’s recommendation. Many Christians now reject the notion that the Bible is God’s word.

Trying to make sense of our present world by reading an ancient book will not work. Books such as the Bible will only help us understand ancient civilizations. They attributed all unknown phenomenon to mystical spirits and gods.

The Bible has value as a snapshot of their time. They tell us how people thousands of years ago thought, lived and how they made sense of their existence with the limited knowledge they had.